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New Post 11/5/2008 11:36 AM
User is offline jannz
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jannz 250 days LDN update 
Modified By jannz  on 11/5/2008 9:49:25 AM)

Hi Everybody,

So these results are after being on LDN for 250 days.  

The difference in my regimen since my last testing is that I added .37mg T4 (Levothroid) to the .7mcg of T3 (Cytomel) that I took in the previous testing period.    Also, I was more consistent with taking my 5mg DHEA.  I've been taking a nightly 3mg of melatonin and 5000iu D3 which I've been taking for months (years ?).    I mention these supplements specifically because I think they have a more direct impact on the immune system than my other supplements.  (ie fish oil,  etc)

The biggest improvement I experienced with this test round was a drop in my TSH so, clearly, the T4 has helped in that area.

 

>> previous
9/16/08
current
10/30/08
TSH 5.756 3.878
FT4 0.94 0.98
FT3 3.0 2.7
TPO 162 167

I was disappointed that my antibodies didn't drop any further -- they're still significantly lower than they were when I started LDN...but I wanted another big drop.  

I'm not sure if I'll be changing any of my regimen....maybe a slight increase in T4 ???  I've been feeling pretty good -- slightly hyperish today -- but...???  Hmmmmnnnn...need to think this over.

Best wishes,

Jann

 

BTW: I updated my test results table if you want to see these results in context with other labs. 

Note:  I had a slight increase in my cholesterol.  I had been taking 250mg of niacin several times a week in my previous testing - but didn't take any in the last 6wks.    I'm sure the 'BLT' sandwich (bacon, lettuce, tomato)  that I ate the night before testing contributed somewhat to my slight increase in cholesterol, however, I think I may go back to the niacin -  maybe just once a week though.


Autoimmune disease presenting as:

Vitiligo: 1987 ~ Hashi's: 1996 ? ~ Sjogrens: 2003 ?

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New Post 11/6/2008 5:49 AM
User is offline Lolly
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Re: jannz 250 days LDN update 

Hi Jann,

I wonder if increasing your T4 slightly will raise that and bring the FT3 up , lowering your TSH.

Your taking .037mcg T4 and 5mcg T3..and 4.5mg LDN.

Your Labs certainly don't look hyperish, if anything on the low side. I would ask to increase your T4 and lab again in 4-6 weeks it takes a little longer than 4 weeks on replacement to see any significant change around 6-8 weeks..I get my labs done today well in a minute I best get ready.

 

Best wishes

Lolly

 


Lolly, Oh so Jolly Toot Toot
DX Graves Disease and TED in 2005, TT 19th March 07
150 mcg Levothyroxine, 13th Feb 07 LDN 1.5mg. Increased to 3 mg 26th April 07 switched to daytime dosing
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New Post 11/7/2008 7:51 AM
User is offline Valerie
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Re: jannz 250 days LDN update 

Hi Jann,

Wow, has it been that long on LDN? Amazing!

How have you been feeling since starting DHEA? From everything I've been reading, the D3 is now a lynchpin to wellness in autoimmunity. I'll post something shortly on that topic. DHEA is controversial, but I hope you got a chance to see my recent post on DHEA and thyroid disease.

Yes, adding T4 would cause a drop in TSH, and truly, your TSH was too high before. The optimal levels, especially in thyroid disease, are somewhere closer to 1-2, so you still have plenty of room to spare should you decide to add more T4 and/or T3. Your Free T levels still seem a little low to me, but who am I to say? They seem proportionate against each other (i.e. FT4 and FT3), but both seem low. As for the TPO Ab... yes, it is a little disappointing to see no change since LDN, but those levels are not bad at all, Jann, not when you consider that they could be in the thousands. Those TPO levels are like my diagnosing levels with Graves' disease and it was considered very low (assuming I have your range right). I think it would help to raise your thyroid hormone levels a bit as well. 

If you've been feeling well, take it and run!  As for the cholesterol - I think it's because your T hormone levels are too low. Never fails in my case. Low hormone, high cholesterol. (btw, I avoid bacon for oh so many reasons, from fat content to salt and curatives - used to love it, but don't do it anymore).

What made you decide to stop using niacin? Any particular thing?


Meow!—Valerie
DX Grave's disease and Grave's ophthalmology 2003
Positive for TSH-Receptor and TPO antibody
Thyroid Drugs: Methimazole (MMI) 3.75 mg
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